26 Jan 2018

Here's one way benefit fraud is understated - and why

A benefit fraud reader comments on this post:
This is going on every single day. People from the EU come into my place of work and make up all sorts of stories about where they are from etc. They also move over to Britain, move into a really bad place to live and then come into the council and demand Social Housing. When they get it, they then move in loads of other people and then say they are living in over crowded conditions and they get a larger house. After 5 years they are allowed to buy their Social House, making an instant profit and depleting the Social Housing stock.They are even allowed to buy their Social House even if they have been in rent arrears while tenants. They sign up to all the benefits and usually get them. Some of them are claiming more benefits then I get paid and they are for doing nothing for this money, because as I often hear from them "they are entitled to it".

The whole system is a complete joke. Its not just people from the EU that do this, it is people born in Britain that think they are "entitled" to live off the working.

The Data Protection Act allows this to happen, as we are not allowed to share information with other departments within the council or other councils. People often move areas and do the same thing again. If you are not going to commit a crime you would not mind your data been shared with other government services. Wake up government, any government. Put the GREAT back in Britain. If Departments could share information, people would not get away with so much fraud, thus reducing the costs of it.
Political success in benefit fraud enforcement is to keep the detected fraud numbers falling slowly. This demonstrates "improvement" and "success".

Note it has nothing to do with the actual level of benefit fraud. If the government put more resources into detecting benefit fraud (for instance identifying patterns like this one), the total of fraud identified would go up.

This would free up money for the government to spend on other things. But admitting to a higher level of benefit fraud would attract political criticism - criticism any government would rather do without.

Anything for a quiet life. Even though better enforcement would benefit taxpayers.


Anonymous said...

Its very frustrating to be paying benefits out day in day out to the same sorts of scams. Management put in a token effort towards fraud but just want a quiet life as they wait for early retirement.

Only 50 percentage of adults pay income tax and they are going to get more and more resentful towards those that don't.

I'd estimate fraud at a third of the claims I see. The 1% figure are the numbers prosecuted. Like judging the number or rapes based on convictions.

Anonymous said...

Just a third? In my area I wouldn't be surprised if that was at least 70% Looking at the claims of neighbours, most had some discrepancy that should have flagged fraud. Those that I knew were clearly being less than truthful about their mobility, living status, income, even if they were actually living in the property. Fraud weren't interested. The only time fraud were animated was if a business could be raided and cash-in-hand workers discovered. Anything else and they weren't bothered